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    Has anyone on here fitted a Big Bore 44 Weber as advertised?

    There seems very little factual information on it, just that you get more power...

    Mike
    Mike

    #2
    Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't 1.75 " = 44.45mm
    Carbs suck.

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      #3
      I have recently had the standard Stagweber carbs fitted and that has given a positive improvement. The car now starts much more easily than with the Strombergs. As long as you follow a procedure it starts on the first turn. The response is definitely better. Acceleration is improved and my wife and myself on a recent long run had a fuel consumption of 29.9 mpg. I have not had it on a track to test top speed yet but what's not to like?

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        #4
        Originally posted by Stagdad View Post
        Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't 1.75 " = 44.45mm
        Spot on Steve, hence I’m slightly interested in why the ‘big’ bore Weber would produce better results than Stroms but if anyone has results it would be interesting to hear..

        Cheers
        Mike

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          #5
          Originally posted by mike@thenook View Post

          Spot on Steve, hence I’m slightly interested in why the ‘big’ bore Weber would produce better results than Stroms but if anyone has results it would be interesting to hear..

          Cheers
          Bigger than the smaller 38mm one i guess.
          Carbs suck.

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            #6
            If my Stromberg carbs started giving problems I couldn't easily sort, then I'll be looking for a Weber - mebbe the 38, but I quite fancy the big bore, given an excuse. In some ways the match on throat diameter points towards the BB, but have heard positive reports, like Selbris above, on the 38.

            From what I've seen and heard, either of these options would be a more reliable way forward than getting the Stroms "reconditioned".
            White 1976 build ("Mk2") only a few mods

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              #7
              Originally posted by StagJonno View Post
              If my Stromberg carbs started giving problems I couldn't easily sort, then I'll be looking for a Weber - mebbe the 38, but I quite fancy the big bore, given an excuse. In some ways the match on throat diameter points towards the BB, but have heard positive reports, like Selbris above, on the 38.
              Why just keep talking about it, get them and report back for the benefit of both Stagweber and the forum.

              In defence of the Stroms, lets face it any carb is going to be an improvement over a set of tired and out of tune stroms so I just don't buy into this whole Weber is better business. A hamfisted gibbon can easily mess up the tune on a set of Stroms but it doesn't take an hour to get them running sweetly again. I went to effort to post up videos on yootoob showing all.

              Originally posted by StagJonno View Post
              From what I've seen and heard, either of these options would be a more reliable way forward than getting the Stroms "reconditioned".
              Your thinly veiled attack on this supplier has not gone unnoticed, I refer you to https://www.socforum.com/forum/forum...ide#post794025

              I run a business doing such stuff, but not over the counter before everyone starts reaching for their quill pens, I could not supply set of "ready to run" stroms, they would always need tuning to the engine.

              Also and I will say it for the umpteenth time, fuel pressure regulator
              Stags and Range Rover Classics - I must be a loony

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                #8
                Been running the 38 for about 5 years and thoroughly satisfied with it. As Selgris says, car seems to run much better and had over 30mpg last year on a run from Chesterfield to IOW and back at road speed limits where I could. Overall mpg is also improved. Also contemplated the 44 but as others have said, there appears to be no info on it.
                Maurice

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by mike@thenook View Post
                  Has anyone on here fitted a Big Bore 44 Weber as advertised?

                  There seems very little factual information on it, just that you get more power...

                  Mike

                  I wonder if they have been extensively tested on a rolling road setup in order to determine the optimum jetting?

                  Has the 44 installation on a Stag been tested/evaluated for potential bore wash due to excessive fuelling?

                  Any information as to exact performance figures compared to Strombergs and/or the smaller Weber?

                  Any info as to MPG over a range of driving scenarios?

                  Any info on side effects such as possible new oil leaks and the subsequent cost/methods of dealing with them?

                  Any info regarding invalid car insurance unless you notify your insurer?

                  Does the supplier have product liability insurance in case it causes damage to your Stag?

                  Any overriding fag packet engineering 'it'll be alright mate, don't worry.....' type of disclaimer statements to worry about?


                  Cheers
                  Keith

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                    #10
                    Others have written on the Forum about increased crankcase pressure and subsequent oil leaks when using the Stagweber set-up as it doesn't replicate the Strommies' breather set-up. I believe this applies to the standard 38 as probably pre-dates the newer 44. I have no direct experience as I chose to stick with my Strombergs and renovate them with the repair kit via Burlens, which as worked fine. Perhaps others who have been here and found breather solutions can add to this thread. I have no axe to grind - I have a Stagweber expansion tank fitted and happy with that product.
                    Mk 2 1975 TV8 Mimosa

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                      #11
                      I may be missing something in all this but having had a Holley fitted in the past (crankcase pressure problems aside which didn't cause a problem for me) the main benefit I could see was the down-draught set-up rather than side draught of the stroms - the air/fuel mixture is more direct than having to follow the path the stroms route takes.
                      This seems to mirror in a way the fuel injection idea where the plenum sits directly over the inlet manifold and the air/fuel is pumped straight into the inlet rather than following a curved path.
                      The main reason I went back to Stroms from the Holley was that I found it very difficult to get the ideal jetting that would suit throughout the year wher the Stroms generally need little adjustment per season.
                      The only problem I have at the moment with the 44 is that £530 is a lot to part with for something that seems unproven and where I would effectively be a guinea pig, not ideal and when compared with the Holley it did originally work straight out the box but was somewhat over jetted for a Stag.

                      Cheers
                      Mike

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by richardthestag View Post

                        Why just keep talking about it, get them and report back for the benefit of both Stagweber and the forum.

                        In defence of the Stroms, lets face it any carb is going to be an improvement over a set of tired and out of tune stroms so I just don't buy into this whole Weber is better business. A hamfisted gibbon can easily mess up the tune on a set of Stroms but it doesn't take an hour to get them running sweetly again. I went to effort to post up videos on yootoob showing all.



                        Your thinly veiled attack on this supplier has not gone unnoticed, I refer you to https://www.socforum.com/forum/forum...ide#post794025

                        I run a business doing such stuff, but not over the counter before everyone starts reaching for their quill pens, I could not supply set of "ready to run" stroms, they would always need tuning to the engine.

                        Also and I will say it for the umpteenth time, fuel pressure regulator
                        Didn't know you were a mind-reader - you tell me who you think I mean and I'll let you know . In any event, I was expressing a truthful view and providing my reasons which come from personal experience, experience of others whose judgements I respect, plus a little check on google for reviews - try it.

                        Thank you for spending my money, but am not planning such a purchase in the near future as my Stroms are currently working OK - I have enough demands on my funds . You could always perform that exercise yourself?
                        White 1976 build ("Mk2") only a few mods

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                          #13
                          I don't need to be a mind reader, everyone knew exactly who you were having a pop at.

                          Funny thing is that you and a couple of others are the very first to the podium should someone dare to make a little sly comment about another supplier. Webadmin has banned a fully paid up member for exactly that! And was chomping at the bit more recently until I was able to promote a more sensible outcome.

                          Still it keeps me as a volunteer moderator and company owner, away from earning money to put food on the table, dealing with all the petty swipes.
                          Stags and Range Rover Classics - I must be a loony

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by 72BLUE View Post


                            I wonder if they have been extensively tested on a rolling road setup in order to determine the optimum jetting?

                            Has the 44 installation on a Stag been tested/evaluated for potential bore wash due to excessive fuelling?

                            Any information as to exact performance figures compared to Strombergs and/or the smaller Weber?

                            Any info as to MPG over a range of driving scenarios?

                            Any info on side effects such as possible new oil leaks and the subsequent cost/methods of dealing with them?

                            Any info regarding invalid car insurance unless you notify your insurer?

                            Does the supplier have product liability insurance in case it causes damage to your Stag?

                            Any overriding fag packet engineering 'it'll be alright mate, don't worry.....' type of disclaimer statements to worry about?


                            Cheers
                            Keith
                            Hi Keith

                            Can I direct you to Stagweber disclaimer here https://www.stagweber.co.uk/disclaimer

                            Disclaimer


                            DISCLAIMER: All stagweber kits and parts are sold on the following conditions. By fitting or using any product you agree to be bound by this disclaimer.

                            The parts supplied have been carefully chosen to ensure good performance and reliability, however, the seller cannot accept any liability in the unlikely event of the failure of any component for any loss, breach, damage (whether direct, consequential, general or special) or expense of any nature whatsoever which may be caused directly or indirectly through fitting of, use of, or reliance upon these parts/kits by any person. I (the customer) accept total responsibility for the safe fitting of the parts according to and following to the letter, the instructions provided by the seller. Due to the differing conditions and circumstances under which parts or kits are installed and used, customers are not relying on the skill or judgement of the supplier to select or furnish the proper part or equipment for their particular needs. The customer expressly affirms they are relying upon their own skill and judgement to select and purchase suitable goods.

                            I (the customer) have read, understood and agree to the terms of business. I (the customer) understand all of the above and agree to purchase these parts/kit on the above terms.
                            hope that helps
                            Stags and Range Rover Classics - I must be a loony

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                              #15
                              Wow, that is some disclaimer!

                              Looks like it covers everything from the sellers side.
                              I only do what the voices in my wife’s head tell me to do!

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