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  • Goldstar
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    Originally posted by dasadrew View Post
    Paul,

    I think my message came across wrong. With "applied generally" I meant that, in future, those words could be made to apply to all sections - not just the "For Sale...".

    Individual opinions of what's a shed and what's a bargain are often candidates to spark a "lively discussion". It's the old "why is guacomole so expensive when avocados are so cheap" argument!

    Anyway, I'll now f-off* out of this one.

    Drew

    (*fly off)
    You’re right about your message Drew - over prescription of the rules though has helped the uk government into its current pickle
    Last edited by Goldstar; 25th May 2020, 11:00.

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  • dasadrew
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    Paul,

    I think my message came across wrong. With "applied generally" I meant that, in future, those words could be made to apply to all sections - not just the "For Sale...".

    Individual opinions of what's a shed and what's a bargain are often candidates to spark a "lively discussion". It's the old "why is guacomole so expensive when avocados are so cheap" argument!

    Anyway, I'll now f-off* out of this one.

    Drew

    (*fly off)

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  • Goldstar
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    Originally posted by dasadrew View Post
    Hi Richard,

    maybe these guidelines from the "For Sale" section could be generally applied - in particular the bit in block capitals. Up to you to see where this might have started off here.



    Drew
    Pretty sure it wasn't an item a member was offering for sale though so this is a bit of a conflation of the facts Drew, very selectively done. I'm not sure it is seemly for the only remaining volunteer moderator to be given such a hard time in an open forum, especially by those who have either been sacked or withdrawn their services. Bit offside gents

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  • KOY 23
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    Apologies Drew, I was not aware that SOC rules applied to eBay listings.

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  • richardthestag
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    Ah Johns fault again

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  • dasadrew
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    Hi Richard,

    maybe these guidelines from the "For Sale" section could be generally applied - in particular the bit in block capitals. Up to you to see where this might have started off here.

    Originally posted by dasadrew View Post
    This section is solely for the purpose of searching for or selling Stags or Stag parts.

    By all means use the threads to ask questions to clarify the item itself, ask where it is, etc., or even to make offers.

    Bad behaviour here would be to discuss the merits of the item concerned, to offer opinions on the asking price, or to propose alternatives to items for sale, and any such posts may be deleted.
    Drew

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  • richardthestag
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    Moderation have had 5 flagged posts from this thread alone. Believe it or not I have many things that I would rather be doing that dealing with spats from grown men on a forum about cars. But while you have my attention let us dissect your most recent posting

    Originally posted by wilf View Post

    Your gut feeling is incorrect. If I wanted an argument, there would be no ambiguity in what I wrote whatsoever. I do not seek such, merely an explanation. Is that unacceptable here? And if you wish to rebuke me in some fashion is the normal route not to do that via a PM initially?
    Ah, I assumed that because you chose not to PM me you would rather the response was in an open forum. You then had issue with that and chose again not to PM me but to post in an open forum. Does this answer your question?

    Originally posted by wilf View Post
    How about actually answering my very reasonable question?
    To be frank, it didn't make any sense to me, I reread it several times but still remain blank. I did note that you chose to extract one sentence out of my original posting which when taken out of context of the rest of it led me to my gut feeling.

    Originally posted by wilf View Post
    Why is it that some of the opinions posted on this thread (all made in a positive, helpful, and constructive fashion from what I can see, with no trace of poor forum conduct whatsoever) are somehow unacceptable to you?
    I refer you to my initial paragraph in this post.

    I appears to me and a number of other members who flagged posts that Koy23 is not allowed an opinion, hence my warning shot

    I reiterate, can you lot behave please?


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  • tvrgeek
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    Back to the topic of stabilizers
    Most ss regulators just have a 3 terminal regulator in them. ( 7810 )THey can withstand an occasional short, but not good, The newer chips are even better but one ss one I bought actually had discrete components. How it could be cheaper I do not know, but the miracle of Chinese job shops. Of course, you can't blame a failure on an external condition. In my days in failure analysis, we found over 90% of component failures were external overstress. Everything from ESD to design faults. Notice the recommended application guide for these regulators includes several external components not included in the ones you buy.

    If you could buy a new bi-metalic that was any good, it would be a different argument, but the SS ones came about as the replacements are just plain junk and have been since about 1980. A common problem with ss regulators is the poor grounding in our cars. THis can cause oscillations in the regulator or a DC offset, both leading to failures. I also note the ss ones do not have any heat sink and the tab is enclosed within the case. Not a good design. The ones I built I reversed the chip bonding it to the case for a heat sink. As I am busy, just bought one from Moss as my junk bin had no more 7810's in it. Another way one might DIY is just screw them to the gauge case, hard wire a jumper to the gauge input and pigtail power to the chip. One on each gauge that needs one.

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  • wilf
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    Originally posted by richardthestag View Post

    My gut feeling is that you are seeking to kick off an argument, but for now I shall give you benefit of doubt with all the Lockdown Cabin Fever stuff going on.

    I reiterate my above comment to behave yourselves else Webmasters Fresh Start policy may be executed

    Here it is in case you missed it https://www.socforum.com/forum/forum...art#post780092
    Your gut feeling is incorrect. If I wanted an argument, there would be no ambiguity in what I wrote whatsoever. I do not seek such, merely an explanation. Is that unacceptable here? And if you wish to rebuke me in some fashion is the normal route not to do that via a PM initially?

    How about actually answering my very reasonable question? Why is it that some of the opinions posted on this thread (all made in a positive, helpful, and constructive fashion from what I can see, with no trace of poor forum conduct whatsoever) are somehow unacceptable to you?

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  • MandM
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    Thanks John for your offer, Thanks all for the input, will let you know what happens with the problem

    Stay Sane and safe, hope to see you all next year

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  • richardthestag
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    Originally posted by wilf View Post

    I am at something of a loss here, reading back this thread - seems some opinions are more equal/acceptable than others....................why is that exactly?
    My gut feeling is that you are seeking to kick off an argument, but for now I shall give you benefit of doubt with all the Lockdown Cabin Fever stuff going on.

    I reiterate my above comment to behave yourselves else Webmasters Fresh Start policy may be executed

    Here it is in case you missed it https://www.socforum.com/forum/forum...art#post780092

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  • Wisey
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    For what it's worth, I was working on a fellow SOC members car that had intermittent fuel gauge readings. He had replaced the old bi-metalic regulator twice with new electronic ones, only to have them fail. Re-fitting the original regulator seemed to give a reading again. I found root cause, the fuel gauge connector post was slightly loose and intermittently shorting to earth (like when the dash was being moved to work on the fault!). In the meantime I bought a few LM regulators of the bay, to replace the internals of his failed units. I noticed his original units had a very small darlington pair regulators fitted, I suggest these units failed due to being intermittently shorted to earth. The more substantial LM regulator appears to have survived being shorted down to earth, and continues to work fine with the modified insulators fitted to the fuel gauge posts. The photos show the difference in size between the small and large regulator, some suppliers websites show the internals fitted to their voltage regulators. Attached photos show the post shorting, the insulator I made fitted, and the difference in size between darlington/LM regulators.
    Stay safe,
    Steve

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  • wilf
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    Originally posted by richardthestag View Post

    Are we seriously are going back to the old days of some people not being allowed to have an opinion?


    I am at something of a loss here, reading back this thread - seems some opinions are more equal/acceptable than others....................why is that exactly?
    Last edited by wilf; 23rd May 2020, 22:33.

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  • tvrgeek
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    Sorry Koy, but this was a general comment about the many times I have seen complaints on what parts cost. It is too easy for some to look at only the product and forget the total cost of production. A 30 million dollar computer does not impress my, the 3 dollar calculator baffles my mind.

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  • KOY 23
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    Originally posted by marshman View Post

    Blimey, you paid over the odds there, hope it included postage cost!. I can get the regulators for less than 23p each! (less if I buy "fakes" in bulk from China), means I would "make" over 7 per sale "This time next year Rodney we will be Miwionairs!!!"



    Seriously though just eBay fees (75p), Paypal fees (45p), and postage (88p) would only leave 5.42p that's before the actual cost of the regulator, heatshrink and wire, let alone consumables, cost of jiffy bag etc.

    Yes there are those of us who know what we are doing (or at least think we do) and can do things cheaper, but then again there are others who need a bit more help and guidance or just have better things to do with their time.
    I buy good ones. Good analysis Roger, I forgot the ebay/PayPal costs.

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