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    #16
    Originally posted by dave1959 View Post
    That Moss one is heavy for what it is. As you can do this yourself for less than 5
    Exactly, total cost of mine was 80p, the cost of the regulator.

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      #17
      Hi Martin, I have the LD Part one if its the same one as he is selling now and I have had it many years and easy to fit. Mine is definitely a solid state one
      Yellow Rules OK

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        #18
        Originally posted by MandM View Post
        I'm going to check the earth first as my gauges go down not up, I stopped on the way home from the garden centre as my temp gauge went to zero and the fuel gauge went to 3/4 just after filling the tank with my 99p petrol.
        Have to disagree. Sounds like a bad connection. If it was the stabilizer, both gauges would do the same thing. Either zero if no voltage, or the usual failure of "sticking" meaning higher voltage, both would read high.

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          #19
          Originally posted by KOY 23 View Post
          6 for soldering 3 short lengths of wire and a bit of heatshrink, not a bad little number.
          I am with John on this!

          For a fix that is not exactly plug and play I suspect that it is aimed at those that could probably assemble the parts themselves.

          Some folk just love spending money I guess
          Stags and Range Rover Classics - I must be a loony

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            #20
            It is clear that a great number of folks here no experience with the actual costs of manufacturing low quantity runs. Just soldering some wire? How about the time to buy the wire? How about the time needed to accept orders, package and ship? How about business insurance and taxes? Sure, if you are going to build a couple million, they could be a buck-50. Going to build a couple dozen? Whole different equation.

            Not everyone is an electronic tech as I was. No repair shop is going to spend an hour getting everything together and building one. How happy would you be if you paid $2 for parts, an hour @ $90 and another hour to put it in? $200 for a stabilizer. If one could make money making a few dozen. I would have flooded the market 5 years before they were available as that is when I started building for friends. I figured more like $35 each and no one would pay that. ( 1980 dollars)

            I am happy to be able to buy parts at all for an unpopular 50 year old car they built very few of. 6 choices in carpet kits! We can buy improved parts, not just breaker yard or crap made who knows where replacements.

            BTW, the old 7810's and 7910s worked OK, but the newer chips have a lower dropout voltage.

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              #21
              Originally posted by tvrgeek View Post
              It is clear that a great number of folks here no experience with the actual costs of manufacturing low quantity runs. Just soldering some wire? How about the time to buy the wire? How about the time needed to accept orders, package and ship? How about business insurance and taxes? Sure, if you are going to build a couple million, they could be a buck-50. Going to build a couple dozen? Whole different equation.

              Not everyone is an electronic tech as I was. No repair shop is going to spend an hour getting everything together and building one. How happy would you be if you paid $2 for parts, an hour @ $90 and another hour to put it in? $200 for a stabilizer. If one could make money making a few dozen. I would have flooded the market 5 years before they were available as that is when I started building for friends. I figured more like $35 each and no one would pay that. ( 1980 dollars)

              I am happy to be able to buy parts at all for an unpopular 50 year old car they built very few of. 6 choices in carpet kits! We can buy improved parts, not just breaker yard or crap made who knows where replacements.

              BTW, the old 7810's and 7910s worked OK, but the newer chips have a lower dropout voltage.
              Well said! Having a laugh at someone for paying what in fairness is pittance to do a little job they either don’t want to do or don’t feel confident doing is a disgrace. I thought this whole thing about new beginnings was about being helpful and welcoming... Suppose though you can’t teach old dogs new tricks after all...
              1975 Triumph Stag - TV8 & MOD. Still in sickbay...

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                #22
                Originally posted by KOY 23 View Post

                Exactly, total cost of mine was 80p, the cost of the regulator.
                Blimey, you paid over the odds there, hope it included postage cost!. I can get the regulators for less than 23p each! (less if I buy "fakes" in bulk from China), means I would "make" over 7 per sale "This time next year Rodney we will be Miwionairs!!!"



                Seriously though just eBay fees (75p), Paypal fees (45p), and postage (88p) would only leave 5.42p that's before the actual cost of the regulator, heatshrink and wire, let alone consumables, cost of jiffy bag etc.

                Yes there are those of us who know what we are doing (or at least think we do) and can do things cheaper, but then again there are others who need a bit more help and guidance or just have better things to do with their time.
                White TV8 BW35 no mods and now a Dolly Sprint to keep it company
                So many cars, so little time!

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by tvrgeek View Post
                  It is clear that a great number of folks here no experience with the actual costs of manufacturing low quantity runs. Just soldering some wire? How about the time to buy the wire? How about the time needed to accept orders, package and ship? How about business insurance and taxes? Sure, if you are going to build a couple million, they could be a buck-50. Going to build a couple dozen? Whole different equation.

                  Not everyone is an electronic tech as I was. No repair shop is going to spend an hour getting everything together and building one. How happy would you be if you paid $2 for parts, an hour @ $90 and another hour to put it in? $200 for a stabilizer. If one could make money making a few dozen. I would have flooded the market 5 years before they were available as that is when I started building for friends. I figured more like $35 each and no one would pay that. ( 1980 dollars)

                  I am happy to be able to buy parts at all for an unpopular 50 year old car they built very few of. 6 choices in carpet kits! We can buy improved parts, not just breaker yard or crap made who knows where replacements.

                  BTW, the old 7810's and 7910s worked OK, but the newer chips have a lower dropout voltage.
                  Please don’t assume as you know nothing about me.
                  Last edited by KOY 23; 23rd May 2020, 15:25.

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                    #24
                    ThinkMartin the OP sums it up and

                    "I've seen a site about make your own but didn't want that hassle"

                    Enough said.







                    Nigel
                    1976 MK2 TV8 ZF - 4 HP-22 Auto, Hard Top Inca Yellow, Minilite Replicas, Stagdad Pump

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                      #25
                      Martin. If you send me your old one I’ll replace the guts with an electronic regulator F.O.C. Providing I don’t have to paint it yellow.

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                        #26
                        Chaps, any chance that you can behave yourselves please and this time I am NOT directing the comments at Koy23. For some utterly bizarre reason it is kicking off about a cheap orrible product on ebay and a number of the usual candidates defending it to the death.

                        I honestly couldn't care less if you bought it or indeed buy it. The time it takes to assemble and the sum of it's parts does not necessarily equal the value. Anyone who has restored a car should be testament to that. John Koy23 pointed this out and I agreed with him.

                        Fill your boots chaps and buy what you like, I'll stick with the "if it aint broke dont fix it" theory and be looking for the same design as original but solid state. Save me time having to chop wires about and drill holes so I can pop-rivet it in and it costs less that 14.

                        Are we seriously are going back to the old days of some people not being allowed to have an opinion?

                        Enjoy your lockdown Saturday

                        Stags and Range Rover Classics - I must be a loony

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by marshman View Post

                          Blimey, you paid over the odds there, hope it included postage cost!. I can get the regulators for less than 23p each! (less if I buy "fakes" in bulk from China), means I would "make" over 7 per sale "This time next year Rodney we will be Miwionairs!!!"



                          Seriously though just eBay fees (75p), Paypal fees (45p), and postage (88p) would only leave 5.42p that's before the actual cost of the regulator, heatshrink and wire, let alone consumables, cost of jiffy bag etc.

                          Yes there are those of us who know what we are doing (or at least think we do) and can do things cheaper, but then again there are others who need a bit more help and guidance or just have better things to do with their time.
                          I buy good ones. Good analysis Roger, I forgot the ebay/PayPal costs.

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                            #28
                            Sorry Koy, but this was a general comment about the many times I have seen complaints on what parts cost. It is too easy for some to look at only the product and forget the total cost of production. A 30 million dollar computer does not impress my, the 3 dollar calculator baffles my mind.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by richardthestag View Post

                              Are we seriously are going back to the old days of some people not being allowed to have an opinion?


                              I am at something of a loss here, reading back this thread - seems some opinions are more equal/acceptable than others....................why is that exactly?
                              Last edited by wilf; 23rd May 2020, 22:33.
                              Header tanks - you can't beat a bit of bling.

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                                #30
                                For what it's worth, I was working on a fellow SOC members car that had intermittent fuel gauge readings. He had replaced the old bi-metalic regulator twice with new electronic ones, only to have them fail. Re-fitting the original regulator seemed to give a reading again. I found root cause, the fuel gauge connector post was slightly loose and intermittently shorting to earth (like when the dash was being moved to work on the fault!). In the meantime I bought a few LM regulators of the bay, to replace the internals of his failed units. I noticed his original units had a very small darlington pair regulators fitted, I suggest these units failed due to being intermittently shorted to earth. The more substantial LM regulator appears to have survived being shorted down to earth, and continues to work fine with the modified insulators fitted to the fuel gauge posts. The photos show the difference in size between the small and large regulator, some suppliers websites show the internals fitted to their voltage regulators. Attached photos show the post shorting, the insulator I made fitted, and the difference in size between darlington/LM regulators.
                                Stay safe,
                                Steve

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