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    Automatic or Manual? That’s the question

    with apologies to William Shakespeare of course. But in the last century there was a suggestion that we would do better to have manual cars, rather than automatic. The reason was the lack of exercise of the left leg could lead to a thrombosis. I have had automatic cars for years, including my Stag. And management will only drive the Alvis under duress if I have enjoyed too much you know what.
    I would be interested to know given there were more automatic Stags than manuals if anyone has suffered as a result.

    #2
    Use left foot braking, as per your favourite rally driver. Plenty of exercise then!
    Mabel is a white 1972 Mk1˝, TV8, ZF 4HP-22 auto,
    2016 RBRR finisher. 400 mile C2C 21/22 April 2018!

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      #3
      Automatic or manual?? Well I suppose it depends to a certain extent where you use the car most. For any sort of urban or city driving an automatic is certainly easier in the stop-go traffic scenario but for rural open roads then I'd say the manual box is preferable. I love nothing better than flicking in and out of overdrive on the hilly,winding roads of the Yorkshire Dales and Lake District. Interestingly my car was originally an automatic and was changed by the previous owner about 25 years ago during a total restoration.It is still states auto on the log book, but had it been an auto I may well not have bought it as it's not what I wanted. I've read in articles than a manual box is the more desirable of the two but each to their own I guess.


      Richard

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        #4
        ““ given there were more automatic Stags than manuals..” “ - Common misconception !

        Actual figures below:


        46D342BC-406B-40FC-A5C4-72B0527339FA.png
        I only do what the voices in my wife’s head tell me to do!

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          #5
          I would never have bought an automatic Stag, but the bodywork on mine persuaded me to buy it in spite of the ZF 4-speed auto gearbox.

          I haven’t really regretted it.
          Mabel is a white 1972 Mk1˝, TV8, ZF 4HP-22 auto,
          2016 RBRR finisher. 400 mile C2C 21/22 April 2018!

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            #6
            Originally posted by Jeff View Post
            ““ given there were more automatic Stags than manuals..” “ - Common misconception !

            Actual figures below:


            46D342BC-406B-40FC-A5C4-72B0527339FA.png
            It's interesting to see how the numbers change during the lifetime of the car. Initially there were quite a lot less automatics produced towards the end of the production run they were more popular than the manuals. Perhaps in the beginning drivers were a little wary because after all automatics weren't that common at all in the 1960's and early 70's and even now after more than 43 years of driving cars I've never actually owned an automatic, although I have driven the odd one-my ex father-in-law had a very fast 3 litre Granada auto

            Richard

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              #7
              auto for my stag and daily drive due to osteoarthritis

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                #8
                Originally posted by Jeff View Post
                ““ given there were more automatic Stags than manuals..” “ - Common misconception !

                Actual figures below:


                46D342BC-406B-40FC-A5C4-72B0527339FA.png
                Am I missing something but I make it 11,716 manuals out of a total of 25,939. Mine was also delivered as an auto but changed sometime in the 80s to manual+OD. Much prefer it to an auto, (daily is a Skoda OctaviaVRS DSG), 3rd/3rdO/D in town is perfect.
                Maurice

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by mopoole View Post

                  Am I missing something but I make it 11,716 manuals out of a total of 25,939. Mine was also delivered as an auto but changed sometime in the 80s to manual+OD. Much prefer it to an auto, (daily is a Skoda OctaviaVRS DSG), 3rd/3rdO/D in town is perfect.
                  Maurice
                  Yes, the figures for 1976 do not include a auto/manual split. Excluding 1976 there were 11716 manuals and 11113 autos - so more manuals than autos - it is arguable what the 1976 split actually was and could be enough to swing it the other way.

                  For what it is worth (very little I suspect) I think an auto suits the Stag as I regard it as a relaxed grand tourer and not a sports car. Mine is an auto and is the only auto car I have ever owned or driven. In general I prefer a manual car but in the case of the Stag I do like the relaxed driving of the auto, just squeeze the throttle and go!

                  Roger
                  White TV8 BW35 no mods and now a Dolly Sprint to keep it company
                  So many cars, so little time!

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                    #10
                    With today's crowded roads, I could not envisage ever having another manual. All three vehicles in our house are autos.

                    So far as the Stag goes, I love the slushbox drive the original 3 speeder gives.
                    Header tanks - you can't beat a bit of bling.

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                      #11
                      Based upon the above figures, and others I’ve seen, the split was near enough 50:50. If you look in this website, however, it seems that the survival rate for Manual cars in the U.K. is better than for the autos. https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=...&commit=Search


                      Having owned two Stags, long term, driving 60,000 miles in my first MOD Stag and (so far) 45,000 miles in my current auto Stag, I tend to agree with Roger. The auto is much more relaxing to drive, especially with a ZF fitted. Especially in traffic!
                      Dave
                      1974 Mk2, ZF Auto, 3.45 Diff, Datsun Driveshafts. Stag owner/maintainer since 1989.

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                        #12
                        Any cases of thrombosis in the left leg of the Stag driving community?
                        And yes in all the automatic cars in our household I more often than not brake with both feet on the brake pedal. Sometimes a bit difficult on the Stag as my shoes can hit the steering column.

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                          #13
                          All my daily drivers have been auto's for the last twenty six years, the Stags an MOD but would swap it to auto in a heartbeat if i had the knowledge and money.
                          Chris TV8 O/D Carmine, Scirocco TDI 180 R Line

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                            #14
                            Bought mine as an auto originally but quickly converted to manual with j type overdrive as it seemed so undergeared with only 3 on the auto.
                            i’d certainly consider when I stiffen up (eventually) converting it back but with a 4 speed ZF
                            Mike

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by mike@thenook View Post
                              Bought mine as an auto originally but quickly converted to manual with j type overdrive as it seemed so undergeared with only 3 on the auto.
                              i’d certainly consider when I stiffen up (eventually) converting it back but with a 4 speed ZF
                              Just had a ZF box fitted to mine
                              "The UK,s Most Easterly Stag" Quad Exhaust- ZF 4 Speed BOX

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