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    Well, having this week off, I thought I would spending this morning helping Dad sort his Stag handbrake as it was not holding the car and he has just bought a new set of the handbrake adjusters. Took the driveshaft's out for easier access and also to replace the U/J's one side as they were shot, so that went well. 1pm. Then fitted the new adjusters, pushed the levers towards the drums, pressed the brake pedal, click, click, click, brilliant. 3pm.......started to tighten the handbrake cable a wheel at a time until we got around 4 clicks of the handbrake. Guess what, yep, I could turn the wheels by hand. So, tighten the cable further until he could only get 2 clicks, made no difference and hand brake cable now at max adjustment.

    This problem he had before he bought and we fitted the new adjusters so its not them.

    5.45pm came in cold and feel like I have wasted a full day with just the U/J's done which is the easy part for me.

    Foot brake is perfect.

    Given up and just don't know why the problem is with how the car was and now is. Dad has just driven and I know I am going to have to do the job yet again

    So much for holiday, sorry, but cheesed off

    Suggestions most welcome

    Going to have mulled wine now and eat and try and switch off.

    Sorry
    Andrew
    Yellow Rules OK

    #2
    Originally posted by Andrew S View Post
    Well, having this week off, I thought I would spending this morning helping Dad sort his Stag handbrake as it was not holding the car and he has just bought a new set of the handbrake adjusters. Took the driveshaft's out for easier access and also to replace the U/J's one side as they were shot, so that went well. 1pm. Then fitted the new adjusters, pushed the levers towards the drums, pressed the brake pedal, click, click, click, brilliant. 3pm.......started to tighten the handbrake cable a wheel at a time until we got around 4 clicks of the handbrake. Guess what, yep, I could turn the wheels by hand. So, tighten the cable further until he could only get 2 clicks, made no difference and hand brake cable now at max adjustment.

    This problem he had before he bought and we fitted the new adjusters so its not them.

    5.45pm came in cold and feel like I have wasted a full day with just the U/J's done which is the easy part for me.

    Foot brake is perfect.

    Given up and just don't know why the problem is with how the car was and now is. Dad has just driven and I know I am going to have to do the job yet again

    So much for holiday, sorry, but cheesed off

    Suggestions most welcome

    Going to have mulled wine now and eat and try and switch off.

    Sorry
    Andrew
    Hi Andrew,

    The adjusters are the right way around aren't they? There is a picture that has been posted before showing the orientation. Makes a big difference.

    Cheers...Al
    1975 Mk2 3.0 V8 MOD, new strommies, tubulars & quad exhaust = 166.8 bhp

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      #3
      Adjusters not sliding on back plate ? Therefore you're using all the adjustment in only one shoe direction, the adjusters need to slide on the back plate.

      Micky

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        #4
        Thanks Al and Micky, I'll check again if I can find that imagine on here

        Cheers
        Andrew
        Yellow Rules OK

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          #5
          Guys, found the images and yes, they are incorrectly fitted
          Thank you, I'll pass on the bad news
          Cheers
          Andrew
          Yellow Rules OK

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            #6
            Hi Andrew
            I think these may be photos you need. (credit to whoever posted them on here )


            brake adjuster.jpgbrake lever.jpg

            Cheers
            Steve
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              #7
              Andrew,

              You need to hold the handbrake cable levers in the completely off position, not pushing the shoes against the drum when you press the brake pedal.
              Dave
              1974 Mk2, ZF Auto, 3.45 Diff, Datsun Driveshafts. Stag owner/maintainer since 1989.

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                #8
                Yep, he has them the same as your top image. At least we know now what has to be done.

                Cheers
                Andrew
                Yellow Rules OK

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                  #9
                  I don't do all this faffing about with tying the levers back. Just put a long thin screwdriver behind the ratchet and adjust it up until you can just get the drum on. Give a bash with a hammer when the drum is fixed in place and it should spin freely. Job done


                  rear brakes.jpg
                  Last edited by milothedog; 29 December 2016, 21:19.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by DJT View Post
                    Andrew,

                    You need to hold the handbrake cable levers in the completely off position, not pushing the shoes against the drum when you press the brake pedal.
                    Cheers Dave, yes, levers were pushed back towards the drums so as to take up any slack
                    Thanks
                    Andrew
                    Yellow Rules OK

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                      #11
                      Thanks Ian
                      Andrew
                      Yellow Rules OK

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                        #12
                        Hello Andrew,

                        Thanks for the post, as I have a similar problem with my rear brakes that I need to look at. I believe my problem is with the routing of the shoe springs, and the earlier photos will be a big help. I've got a new set of CDD driveshafts & hubs to fit (thanks to Motorsport Micky's advice), so will tackle it all together in one hit.

                        Bought any new Nikon glass recently?

                        Dave Chapman

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                          #13
                          Good & helpful pictures.
                          One other thing that helps to give an effective handbrake from the get-go is drums that don't have a wear-ridge.
                          It means that the shoes can be manually set to pretty close, and the friction surfaces will be as close together as the drum-fit.
                          Otherwise the initial amount of travel is increased....until the adjusters take up (if they are working.)
                          The ridge can also mean the the drums become tricky to get off too.
                          just my 2p
                          Originally posted by SGN View Post
                          Hi Andrew
                          I think these may be photos you need. (credit to whoever posted them on here )


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                          Cheers
                          Steve
                          There are 2 secrets to staying on top :- 1. Don't give everything away.
                          2.

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                            #14
                            I adjust mine as Ian does, no problems and that is how we use to do it when I was an apprentice. just make sure the hand brake cables are loose.
                            "The UK,s 2nd Most Easterly Stag" Quad Exhaust- ZF 4 Speed BOX

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by 022Dave View Post
                              Hello Andrew,

                              Thanks for the post, as I have a similar problem with my rear brakes that I need to look at. I believe my problem is with the routing of the shoe springs, and the earlier photos will be a big help. I've got a new set of CDD driveshafts & hubs to fit (thanks to Motorsport Micky's advice), so will tackle it all together in one hit.

                              Bought any new Nikon glass recently?



                              Dave Chapman
                              Hi Dave
                              How you doing?
                              Nope, not bought anymore but still using the camera but with phones these days and better quality, I only take the camera out now with intention of taking photos otherwise its lugging stuff round and also more chance of something being nicked. Caught someone once trying to take the camera. Its amazing what you can do with a café fork these days. Doubt he could write for a week or so
                              Happy New Year to you
                              Cheers
                              Andrew
                              Yellow Rules OK

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